Scorced earth policy for renovations in DB
HKR and DB Management intend to rip it up and pave it over, whatever the effect on occupants of Beach Village.
posted by Fredthom @ 2:19 am
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Sunday, May 28, 2006
HKR and DB Management intend to rip it up and pave it over, whatever the effect on occupants of Beach Village.
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HKR - you call this resort living? Jackhammers, layers of concrete dust in your home, paint fumes, a lobby littered with cigarette butts, dangerous exposed staircases, workmen on your balcony on Sundays. I call this a building site. You can have it, we're outta here.
This is terrible, people who are so feed up they are leaving.
What will HKR do if word of this gets out?
I wish I could leave. We just moved in, the kids are just these past few months starting to adjust and make friends, and my wife and I are finaly calm after the stresses and disruptions of moving here from Europe. Our company has signed a 2 year lease for us and in all practicality it is really hard for us to leave or fight because we then have to get our employer involved. I am, however, going to see our corporate attorny and hear his opinion. There must be some way to make this thing end and also get some satisfaction.
I read in another post somewhere on this site about the possibility of break-ins. What can we do about that? Can we ask the police for more patrols? I notice that not many flats have burglar alarms. Does anyone have any advice for a new family to HK/DB like ours???
I have a suggestion. Everyone chill!! I'm an expat resident AND an owner so I'm paying serious bucks for this mess. Am I pissed off? You bet your ass I am!! Lets not get hysterical though. Women and young girls in danger of rape?? Give me a break!!! This is Hong Kong. When was the last crime that serious committed against an expat by a local?? 198? at Braemar Hill(sp?). So lets not get hysterical.
Lets be reasonable with reasonable arguments and we are sure to be paid more attention than if our arguments are unfounded, speculative and unreasonable.
Do I think we have a case? My word we do!! I have damage to almost every part of my outside living space. HKR pass the buck to the contractor and the contractor wont return my dozen (or more) calls. Is the previous writer correct about peeing under our buildings? He sure is. A guy pee'd on my kayak down there. However.... if you were them...where would you go?? There are no provisions for them. OK..so you'd quit before doing that?...Sure. But bear in mind..if they were rocket scientists they'd be doing rocket science. Just like every country in our precious "developed world"......Wake up call. It doesn't matter where your from ther are people who would resort to peeing under your building given no choice. In fact, if you are a westerner (as I am) I dare say given the opportunity there would be people in the very city your from who would pee on you, scratch the paintwork of your new car, vandalise your property and chastise everything you stand for just because you make a descent crust.
For the record I went to every owners committee meeting I could in the runnup to these reno's. I tried to make a difference. In fact I tried to get much more done than is being implemented now.
Did I fail?... Sure. But I tried.
In the end the owners voted for the cheapest possible option by the cheapest contractor who was, incidentally, already being sued by another
village owners committee in DB. As my Canadian friends would say.. "Go Figure"
My closing statement.
HKR buid crap quality.
Try going to Caribean coast in Tung Chung and comparing to the likes of Sienna hi-rise. Not even close my friend. HKR do things on the cheap. Always have, always will. I have a million examples but I'll leave you with just one.
There are small "star lights" placed under the new stone paving in the plaza?....At what cost? oh about HKD 2 Million. How many of them do you think will work??.. Answer. Minimal if any...probably none. The reason?? They skimped and used a contractor who under quoted everyone else. Result?... the fibre optic cable was laid directly under the stones without laying it through (conduit) tubing and the stones were then tapped into position on top of it. The lights are laid in the gaps between the dark stones. look for yourself. $2 Million worth of all your management fees just up in smoke. And thats only one example.
Conclusion.
HKR is the culprit plain and simple. People would do a better job if they paid em more. So that why your houses are in need of massive renovation.
Your absolutely stupid landlords are , however, responsible for voting for the cheapest job possible and hence the mess your in now.
Incidentally...DID YOU KNOW the Chairlady of the Beach VOC is also chairlady for 3 other villages in DB?Can she really look after all your best interests AND those of 2 other villages AND hold a full time job?
....... AND ( I thought this was DISGUSTING!!) did you know there are MORE than several members of your village owners committe, who make decisions on your behalf regularly,who own a place in Beach village..... and rent it out. They don't even live in DB. Its not a requirement.They live in town.
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